[00:00:28] Speaker A: Welcome to the mushrooms, apprentice. I'm your host, Shona home.
Veda Austin is a water researcher, public speaker, mother, artist and author. She has dedicated the last ten years to observing and photographing the life of water. She believes that water is fluid intelligence, observing itself through every living organism on the planet in the universe. Her primary area of focus is photographing water in its, quote, state of creation, the space between liquid and ice. It is through her remarkable crystallographic photos that water reveals its awareness of not only creation, capital c, but thought and intention through imagery. Veda states on her website, quote, water is the rebel element. It won't conform to the laws of physics or gravity, and it can't be killed. Without it, there is no life. It reincarnates for all to see. And science tells us it came to Earth from outer space. Rebellious, nonconformist, eternal and alien. Just look at the power we are filled with, end quote. Veda's website is vedaaustin.com, and there you will find numerous examples of the extraordinary photos taken of the response of water to her communication. And as well, you'll find workshops and events that Veda offers, including her instruction on how to do this process yourself. And if you can be patient for another couple more months, Veda is coming out with a new book and I cannot wait to get my hands on that. So we are going to learn a lot this episode. Welcome, Veda.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Oh, thank you so much. It's always so interesting hearing my bio read back to me because I'm like, well, it's never changed. It's like, yes, this is how I think, how I feel. And it's been so consistent over the last ten years that when I wrote that, I'm like, yeah, I really do genuinely feel like that. And what I keep seeing in water keeps showing me these incredible kind of revelations of water daily. So thank you for reading that. I often don't hear it so often anymore.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Oh, you are so welcome. I think that really shows that you're in the fullness of your authenticity. This is clearly your dharma.
You're here. And which is why that would just stay consistent. It makes perfect sense. So I would love for you to share with my listeners, first of all, your backstory, because your backstory alone could be a book and a Hollywood movie. So, I mean, it's just really crazy and extraordinary. So I'm going to give you the floor, Veda.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: Thank you.
Well, yeah, my journey with water has certainly been an interesting one.
So, well, over 20 years ago now, I was in a horrendous car accident.
I was the passenger and we went under a seven ton truck, rolled twice and the driver died immediately. He was decapitated. It was one of the worst accidents in New Zealand where someone lived.
And when you see a picture of the car, it's unimaginable that anyone could have survived it. I remember my friend Brent watching it on the news before he knew that I had been in it.
And he said to me, when he watched, he said, I thought at that moment, how could anybody survive that?
And so I had eight surgeries over the course of 20 years and most of them were for bowel surgery because when we had the car accident, the seatbelt wrapped around my waist as it's supposed to. It also crushed my collarbone, but it crushed a lot of my internal organs, so they had internal bleeding. And in fact, three doctors told me that I would never be able to conceive because it was all around the ovaries and uterus. And so I parked what they said on the bench, but because I think it's quite difficult when you get told that your body can't do something.
And so I ended up having three children for every doctor that told me I couldn't, not because I'm so rebellious, but because literally I just put what they said on the shelf because I'm like, well, we just don't know. And I'm going to leave it at that.
The surgeries were.
I mean, that just went on and on. I also had stage four endometriosis, of which I had surgeries, four. So it really is amazing that I have children at all.
The car accident, well, if I'm honest with you, of which I may as well be. Cause it's just that I don't often share this part, was that it wasn't actually an accident.
The guy looked at me and he said, if I can't have you, nobody can. And he turned the car into the truck on purpose.
He had become clinically depressed. He had become obsessed with me. And there's a long story which would take even longer, but it's really a miracle that I'm here.
And one of the beautiful things that came from all of this, and there have been many really, was that my youngest son, Rama, when he was nearly three, it was the day before the second big Christchurch earthquake, because I was in both and he was spying on me. And I had a new friend, she was a friend of my friend and she'd come to Christchurch and we were talking and she was a nurse and she was asking me about my car accident, which. Which I really hadn't shared too much about back then. And so I told her the whole story, not just the car accident story, the story of what actually happened. And my son, like I said, he was nearly three and he was spying on me. And he would had a habit of doing that and spying, hiding in really good places. So I didn't actually even know he was there. And he hadn't heard about the car accident. Like, I hadn't sat him down and had a conversation with him because he's just a little guy.
And as soon as I finished, you know, he jumped out of his hiding place and he jumped up onto my lap. And so, matter of fact, he said, I remember that, mummy. I remember the window wipers and the tires. And I came down out of the clouds and I went like this, and I saved you. And when I knew you were okay, I climbed back up the ladder into the clouds.
He also mentioned that he was angry at the man.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: And he wanted to protect me.
And, you know, he said some things that he shouldn't have been able to know. Right? Like the window wipers. It was starting to. It was rain, the window wipers were going.
And he saw these tires, which were like, there was just too many things in that short little thing he said that were too accurate.
And people literally said when they see a picture of the mangled car, that there is like a cocoon around me where I was.
So I was looked after. There is no doubt about it. I was absolutely looked after. But I had years of recovery, really.
And on my last surgery, doctors, I went in for bowel surgery, actually.
And because where the seatbelt had crushed my internal organs, it left scar tissue on my small bowel. And that scar tissue grew. So every time I try and eat, I would just vomit and vomit and vomit and be in agonizing pain. And after having children now, I can say it was like being in labor almost every day. And I ended up just being on an iv drip. And I'd always recover after getting that because I wasn't eating. But I'm like, well, I actually really also would like to be able to eat. That would be really nice. And so where they did the bowel surgery, the scar tissue kept growing. And so I had to have it again. And so I had it for the third and last, last time, thank God, quite a few years ago now. And they put a stent in my small bowel, and that's worked very well.
But when I woke up, I had doctors standing around me looking very concerned, and they said, well, you didn't recover very well, and you have showers of blood clots in your lungs, and you have to be on warfarin, which is a blood thinner, potentially for the rest of your life. And I'm like, just coming around out of the anesthetic, and I'm like, what? Cause I'm in my early twenties, like, I've never. I don't drink alcohol. You know, I've been vegetarian since I was eight. I've been pretty holistic my whole life. You know, I don't do drugs, like, all these kinds of things. I'm like, what do you mean?
What do you mean, why? And so I was told that if I didn't do this, you know, I was gonna die. And so I took warfarin for several months, and then they did an x ray, and they could see there were no more clots, and they couldn't actually tell me why it happened, which was really difficult for not knowing.
But there was something inside of me, and by that time, I'd had children, and so I already knew my body could heal. So that something inside of me was like, your body can heal.
And so they. The doctor would have liked me to stay taking the blood thinners, but there was a part of me that just said no. And I really, really say, this is my journey. I'm not saying this is not advice for other people. I'm. This is what I did. And I chose that to stop taking it and live the healthiest life I could. And I wanted to really maintain my.
And improve my level of health.
Maintain, as in, like, I had always been healthy. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to continue to be healthy, but what more is there? I ended up talking to a friend who was a medical doctor, but practiced ayurvedic medicine. And he said, look, off the record, why don't you just start drinking naturally alkaline water? It could help to keep your body in balance. So I became curious about that, and he made an emphasis on natural, because one of the differences between ionized water and naturally alkaline water is that naturally alkaline water is stable. It will stay naturally alkaline for long, for years.
So it's not.
It doesn't. The ph doesn't lower rapidly like ionized water does. And so he was saying, this could just be something that you, you know, could be helpful for you. So I thought, well, that sounds easy. And I started becoming the guinea pig of my own health. I did two week trials on different alkaline waters, some from New Zealand, some from overseas.
In New Zealand, we have a lot of springs, and most of them are alkaline, which is really anything above the ph, which stands for power potential of hydrogen over a seven. And distilled water, for example, should be a seven. And anything under a seven is acidic.
So other than feeling hydrated, when there are certain signs of hydration, like, you don't have brain fog, you feel like you have more energy, your eyesight's good. There's a lot of factors that people don't even realize that it's often the little things they think are wrong are dehydration.
So I definitely felt hydrated, but I didn't notice anything drastic.
And it wasn't until a client came to see me, because I had a wellness center, because I have some gifts of healing. And they said, you know, there's this old guy, he's got a private source of deep alkaline water that's coming up through an aquifer, and its ph is 9.9 out of the ground, and he's only giving it to cancer patients. Like, maybe you want to try it. So I was absolutely sign Mia. So I went to go and see him, and I told him my story, and he gave me a month's worth of water to drink.
And the. When I first drank some, I noticed that it was smoother, it had a slight sweetness, and it felt different than a lot of the waters I'd been drinking, which was interesting because a lot of people think all water is the same. But if your body is clean enough, you should be able to taste the difference and tell.
On day three, I noticed a change in bowel motions, which, when you've had a lot of bowel surgery, you know, that's something significant for anyone, to be honest in the world. To be able to have regular and healthy bowel motions is an indicator of our good health. So I noticed a positive change there.
I have noticed that there are, after working with water for so long, and speaking about water, there are so many nations. It's like constipation nations all around, where people are literally just sitting on the toilet trying to push out a pebble for an hour because they don't want to drink water, they'd rather drink something else.
And so this is a real problem for a lot of people.
Then after day ten, around day ten, sorry, I noticed that I had all these bumps coming up along my arm and along the right side of my jaw, and I knew my body must have been purging.
But I really didn't know what exactly. And so as gross as this sound, there was one area on my arm that was just big and angry. And when I rubbed my finger along it, it felt, like, kind of painful and sharp. And I'm like, there's something in there. I know there's something in there. So I got some, like, sharp tweezers, and I started digging away in my arm, which I know it sounds awful, but I ended up pulling out this little shard of green glass.
And I'm like, oh, my God. And then I. Between day ten and twelve, I had pulled out 27 pieces of green glass out of my arm and jaw. Tiny little pieces, but glass all the same. And I knew exactly where they'd come from, because the man in the car owned it, used to own a nightclub, and he had borrowed someone else's car. The car that we were in was not his car. He had borrowed someone's car. The lady who kind of moves the alcohol around from one place to the nightclub. And there were crates of stein, like, a beer in the back, which are green glass lager bottles. And when the car rolled, the left side of my body got more of the windscreen, and the right side of my body got more of the green glass.
And the nurses, when I went to hospital, had spent three days picking the glass out of my face and body and head. I have 17 big scars on top of my head from where glass was pulled out.
And so I was so amazed, because it was like, how the heck can drinking this water be purging me of this glass that's been in my body for so long? It was shocking to me and amazing at the same time.
And so I went on this real investigation because I. I thought, well, you know, maybe it's just me that's having this incredibly detoxifying experience.
So I ended up asking people that were coming to the wellness centre if they would go on trials, on eight week trials, using this water. And I did this for nearly two years until I sold the house and all the rest happened, and my ex husband and I split and the whole stuff. So it was very helpful because I started to get a really good gauge on what this water could do.
And what, across the board, from the very healthy people who were, like, running marathons and whatnot, to the extremely sick people, is that everyone's eyesight improved. I always say we see the entire world through the lens of water, because our eye lens is 99% highly structured water.
And if eyes are the windows to the soul, then tears are an expression of spirit.
And this was interesting to me because everybody's eyesight. And one lady, she had to actually change the prescription on her glasses because her eyesight improved so significantly so quickly, which was quite shocking.
What was the one person was a fisherman, probably still is a fisherman. And he had a fish fin that had gone between the knuckles of his hand, of his fingers. And he thought he got all of it out.
But after drinking the water, he had this, like, kind of thing starting to bulge between his knuckles. And he ended up pulling this bit of what was actually like a little bit of fossilized fin that he hadn't got out of the, you know, the spike. And so he was having that same purging that I had from something deep down within the skin. And so I started to think, you know, how is it that this water is doing this? What makes it different from other types of water? So, I mean, we would be here for a long time if I went through everybody else's experience. But one thing I'd also say is it really helped people that were suffering from depression. And I think a lot of people that don't realize that we are a sophisticated water system. And if we are nothing hydrated in the right way, in a way in which it's not just about quantity of water, it's about quality of water. We are a structured water system, which is runoff light, natural light, not artificial light, which also helps create negative charge. Because we wear shoes all the time, we don't necessarily have our feet on mother Earth, which is negatively charged, which is one of the ways we can get negative charge up through into our cells. Healthy cells are negatively charged, made of fourth phase water. There's a liquid, solid gas, and then a type of gel or plasma. And that type of water expands with infrared light, which could be even just sitting in front of a fire. It's giving off infrared light and is actually h 03:02, which means it has an extra hydrogen oxygen molecule.
And our body converts h two o into the special type of water. But we can give ourselves certain circumstances and drink certain waters that can help our body get into the balance it knows how to get into. It's like we think that something's gone wrong. Like, I thought something had gone wrong with me. Because even though I was doing everything right, how could my body do this? Well, my body had gone and had a bit of an acidic condition, which is what happens when you have blood clots.
Blood clots are an acidic condition, just like cancer is an acidic condition.
And so that's why the doctor recommend I start to drink more alkaline water.
It's not going to make you more alkaline, but it can help with acidic conditions, because our body's blood works extremely hard at maintaining its ph.
And there's a whole. That's a whole other thing. But we actually have a very sophisticated body. It does know how to heal. It really knows how to heal. It needs the environment to help it heal, which is why I think water fasting for periods of time can be extremely helpful. And I would add that one person who was drinking that water, he did a 27 day water fast drinking it, and he had stage four cancer, and he wanted to try fasting before he went down the road of chemotherapy, whilst he still had energy.
And he also did the inner work. I don't want to just say it was entirely the water. We don't know. He did a lot of inner work, which is vitally important, because emotions, feelings, they need to. They kind of move like waves. They come up, they go down, they come up, they go down. And they can be filtered out through the body, through urination. And that's a whole other story. There is.
That's. Yeah, that's in for another time. But he found that halfway through his water fast, his tumour had reduced by half. But the doctors were still very concerned because he still had cancer. And he said, but it's reduced by half. This is incredible. I haven't had any chemo. This is amazing.
And then three weeks after his 27 day water fast, they couldn't find cancer. It was spontaneous healing. And so that was remarkable. And he was not the only cancer patient that had healing, doing a long water fast, drinking this water.
I'm not saying that is the cure for cancer. What I would say is that for anyone that finds that news out before they run to chemo, I would try at least a long water fast. That would be my go to. It gives your body time to heal before, you know, before you try something else. I'm not saying don't, you know, don't just. Everybody can do whatever they want. But if someone was to ask my opinion, I would say that a water fast, even for the longest you can, whether it's four days, five days, ten days, 17 days, 27 days.
His was pretty radical. 27 days is quite a long time. And he did lose weight, but he didn't lose energy.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Wow. But the distinction is, it wasn't municipal water that he was fasting on. It was that spring water.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Absolutely.
And I wouldn't. And I would say that if you're going to do a water fast, you want to look at that water as your.
As like a medicine.
And so you want to be able to get the cleanest, purest medicine you can for your body. This water medicine is going to be your sustenance for however long it's going to be. You form a relationship with it. You know, I would personally go to a spring, connect with that spring, click the water myself, have a relationship all the way through, because that water has the power to share information with you and cleanse your body in a way in which I think we don't even quite realize the significance of what water can do. And your body will tell you what you need as well. Like, my husband wanted to do a water fast at the beginning of last year, and just a four day water fast.
And.
And he was great. He needed that. He did the great. But, like, day three, and I've done a 17 day water fast when I was really sick and I had amazing results and I didn't, like, go through huge withdrawals or anything, but day three last year, my body was like, no, you don't need this.
I had to stop day three because I was vomiting up bile.
And so it could have been that I wasn't drinking enough water. I don't know. But something was very different than my first long experience when I was actually sick. So I've learned to listen to my body, and I think I didn't need it at the time because I live very healthy anyway.
So you need to listen to yourself. You need to do the prep work. You need to, like, you know, prepare for a water fast.
But there are clinical studies to say that if you fast, do a water fast once a week, it can extend your life for up to ten, to ten to 20 years.
That's, like, a lot. That's a lot.
So I think that there is.
Not only have I seen it heal people, and I've had experiences myself, but there is evidence to say that one day of fasting a week can drastically extend your life. So coming back to all these experiences and seeing how the water was helping people, and I went to the water, and I'm like, okay, well, you know, what is it that is special about this water? Like, I'm looking at it, looking at an analysis, and I think that's. That's most people's go to. We read what's in the water.
Okay. It's got. Why is its ph so high? Well, because there's a lot of, you know, bicarb in the water. And that's very alkaline. There's some silica, there's some this, there's some that. And they're all interesting. But there was something in me that was like, this isn't the only thing.
And I started looking at Nikola Tesla's quotes. You know, if you want to know the secrets to the universe, look at frequency, energy and vibration. I'm like, well, how can I find those things out about water? And then something dawned on me. Of course, all I'm looking at, at an analysis is what water holds, not what water is.
And I'm like, well, how can I know what water is? And if you go to the world of science, I say, well, it's h two o, it's two hydrogens and an oxygen.
But then you talk to somebody else and they might say that, well, the two hydrogens are in the mode of levity, and they're feminine, and the large oxygen is the mode of gravity, and it's masculine. Together they create balance and liquid water on earth. Well, that's an interesting perspective. But I was curious because my father is native New Zealand. Mori. And then we have a word for spirit, which is wairua. Wai means water, and rua means two. Two waters, the physical and spiritual waters. And I thought, how can I find out more about this spiritual water within water?
A friend of mine thinks that hydrogen is the spirit of water. And that plasma is the mind of water. And that water, the liquid water we know, is the body that houses the spirit of water. And that evaporation is essentially the sun, which is a big ball of hydrogen, bringing water back home. Because hydrogen literally means the creator of water.
So I became curious.
What makes this water different? How do I know what water even is? What do I even know?
So I started to look, you know, well, what's out there?
What's out there right now? And back then, which is a decade ago, I was looking at Masaru Emoto's book on the messages and water, and his microscopic work.
And his work was very much in contrast, you know, love and hate, heavy metal versus classical music.
And there's a little story more about that and my son later, which we'll share. But there was a man that has some work that uses the same method, I guess, as Emoto did.
But his work really blew me away. More so, I would say, than Emoto's work. Because Emoto's work, we also have to say, of course, the science community didn't embrace it. And the reason that they didn't embrace it was because he openly shared that. He cherry picked his photos to share the best ones for what he was trying to say. And that's not what would be considered scientific, needless to say.
Regardless to say, on about eight photographs, eight contrasting photographs, Masaru Emoto became extremely well known because pictures speak a thousand words. And he really opened the doorway for people to see themselves as bodies of water that are sensitive to thoughts, to words, to environment.
And it doesn't matter, to be honest, how it all came about. What it did was really bring people into an awareness that by molecular count, not by volume, we're 99% water. That means that there are more water molecules in our bodies than stars in the Milky Way.
And his work changed people's view of themselves and of water. And for that, I think he did a marvelous job.
Laurent Costa is a french microscopic photographer who took microscopic photographs of flash frozen water, like Masaro Emoto did.
And his approach very much resonated with me. He didn't want to experiment on water. And I would suggest that I'm not going into this work from the perspective of experimentation.
And I have very, very big reasons for that.
One of this, in a nutshell, what I see is that water doesn't just react to consciousness, it responds to it. And if you have something that is responding to you, that is very much like a conversation.
And because I see that water has living qualities, I don't want to be. I don't want. I'm not a body of water that doesn't want to be experimented on. So why would I want to experiment on something that is a life force, energy of all life, that just somehow just seems to take away from their relationship rather than add to it.
And Laurent Costa, who's still alive, still with us, he has a book called Journey into the Heart of Water.
Now, he was wanting to mainly be the observer as best that he could. He wanted to invite water to share whatever it wanted. He was just wanting to be the observer behind the microscope, so he too would flash freeze water. But he couldn't help but occasionally smile at the water before he froze it. And what he was seeing, as well as geometries, like a moto, he was seeing incredible imagery, like smiley faces smiling back at him. He was seeing hearts, he was seeing fish, he was seeing images, pictures that were relative to something he'd been thinking about that day, something he had observed that week, or something he'd done in the moment.
And that blew me away, because outside of being a water researcher, as so many of us are so multifaceted, faceted. I was also a professional oil painter for many years. So I see the world through an artistic lens, and to see images, pictures that looked like what the influence was or what he was thinking. You see this perfect heart, or you see these cute smiley faces and they make you smile back. You know, you have a reaction. So pictures are a very human thing.
We are able and have been painting pictures and caves for so long, we've been creating these, these the way we view the world through arthem. Art is one of the most sophisticated forms of communication. And why I say that, outside of there being so many genres of art that we get to express through our own expression and our own view, is that there is an interpretation that is invited from art, which is a very different approach, I guess, to science, where there's more of a black and white. This is how it is, sort of a way, whereas without, there's an invitation. The question, what does this mean to you? As opposed to, how is this possible? How is this working? This needs to be this and this and this. And there is an absolute place for that. I'm not knocking science, because I like science when it's true science.
And so I think that art is a very, very sophisticated means of communication.
So seeing art under the microscope, that was amazing to me. And I had a fangirl moment when he actually reached out to me, which not many people have heard of him, but I talk about him in pretty much all of my podcasts. Then there was, because I'm a researcher, I was researching all about water and the various ways that it can store information.
And I ended up coming across a man by the name of Thomas Hieronymus, and he was a radionic engineer. And he made a very interesting observation that when he went into a parisian meat market on a very cold, cold, frosty day, he noticed that the freshly placed organs of an animal appeared to be affecting the way the frost froze on the glass behind where they were placed. So the frost would freeze into the shape of a liver organ above a liver organ, for example.
And he had this hypothesis that there was some kind of life force energy still emanating out of these organs, even though they were no longer attached to an animal. And he put that down to there being water in the blood. And water is always communicating to itself in one form or another. So liquid water can communicate with water that is frosted, for example, or water that is cold in the air that we can't see in a vapor stage, for example, or all these different stages. There is always a kind of cross communication happening.
So there's more detail to that. Like, then people could say, well, what about ice? And there's more there as well.
But anyway, so he thought that the sonic signature. So all different organs of a body have something called a sonic signature, which is essentially, I guess, like a cymatic imprint for form and function. And that that was being shared with water in the air. And the water in the air was now informed. And when it hit the glass, which was a medium for form, to become informed with the information, it took on the shape of the organ. And that encouraged me at that early stage, because he was seeing this with his naked eye. And I, ten years ago, I didn't have a microscope, so I was like, well, he's seeing us with his naked eye. And the secret seems to be in the freezing, where the unseen becomes seen. So I have a freezer, I have some water that healed me, and I have a glass petri dish, because I was working on a separate project.
And so I thought, well, you know, I'm going to project a thought into the water, like, you know, emoto did. I've got nothing to lose. Why not give it a go, you know? So I was holding my dish of water, and I've used all kinds of waters. People always say, do you only use spring water?
People are surprised to learn how much I've learned from tap water, because I'm not looking at it from the perspective of drinking it. I'm looking at it from the perspective of what its structures are, what the pictures are, and how they can change with different inputs.
So I was holding the dish, and I noticed there was a little bit of fluff floating around in the petri dish off water. So I put my hand in to take out the fluff, and I thought, oh, I wonder if my hand will have any impact on the water's memory.
So I'm like, oh, well, that thought will do. And I shoved it into the freezer with the peas and broccoli and ice cream and everything, and forgot about it. And hours later, because that was all the way back when I would freeze water solid, which I haven't done in nine years. And I pulled it out, held it up to the light, and took my very first photo of coming up to nearly 50,000 photos of water, responding intelligently.
When you look at things from a scientific point of view, they like to see repeatability, I think, of within the world of water crystallography. I have some, perhaps some of them. Maybe I'm one of the person that has some of the most repeatability of all bodies of work because I am so prolific and because I have found that water communicates in three ways, and two of them are very repeatable.
So, and I'll talk about the three ways in a minute. But. So I held it up to that, took a photo, and that photo was of a hand. The petri dish was 10 cm diameter, so quite big, basically the size of my hand. And the ice image was half the size. So it was at least, you know, 5 cm big, which is very, which is macroscopically huge. I could easily see it with my naked eye. I was taken aback because of it looked like an x ray of a hand. I inherited my mother's crooked fingers on either side of my middle finger, and the fingers were crooked on either side. So it wasn't just any hand, it was my hand. And when I showed my son, because I was almost in disbelief, and I said, hey, Rama, what does this look like to you? And he looks like a creepy hand, mum, because it did look like an x ray of a hand.
And then I thought, well, of course I allowed myself to feel all the feelings. And then I thought, oh, maybe it's just a coincidence, which is a logical thing to think, of course. So I thought, well, water would be naturally informed. And I thought, well, it's got to be seawater, because, you know, sea water's got, it's like source in a way. You know, it's so primordial. It's got all of these, you know, beings that live in there. And so if I see, if I collect some seawater and freeze that maybe I'll see something relative to the ocean. And I didn't project a thought. I wasn't even at that stage so much outside of projecting the thought of my hand. I wanted to do something different. I wanted to see if water just already had naturally information in it. And that's why I used seawater for my second test.
So I put a very thin amount of seawater, which I collected from the beach myself, into the dish and froze it and tentatively sat outside of the freezer waiting, waiting and waiting. And then, I mean, I got a cup of tea and came in waiting, waiting. And then I'm like, okay, well, I think it, like, probably should be frozen now. And I was nervous because I thought, well, if there is something here, then maybe this isn't a coincidence.
And the second photo I took was of a clear fish. There was the outline of a body with gills and fins and a perfectly round eye and a tail and everything.
And that's when my freezer became my most used household appliance. And I would do this very regularly for one year, but I froze water solid because I didn't know any better.
When I became more and more familiar with the new science of water and this fourth phase of water, I became more curious about when the ice was forming this transitional stage, this stage of creation that I, that you read in the bio, and that's the stage between liquid and ice. And Doctor Gerald Pollack, who's a friend and mentor now.
And, you know, I was so honored when I, when I heard him talking about me as a reference in one of his talks that would have dream so many years ago.
So now he talked about this fourth phase of water occurring in the stages in between the liquid and solid and solid and liquid in the freezing and the melting stages.
So I opened my freezer earlier and earlier and earlier to see what was happening in there. And at about five minutes, I noticed there was liquid on top and ice underneath. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting. So I just took it out and tipped the liquid away, and I photographed the remaining crystallography, which is now my technique. It was a quantum leap from frozen water. In fact, I look back at that year of work now, and I'm literally amazed that I got the kind of imagery that I did, knowing now the process of how water freezes and the three stages of freezing.
And that is really amazing to me because what we now have is very clear imagery. There's a lot of light that can come through the ice. The ice is in a fourth phase. It's pushed solates out. So it's actually extremely pure and it's very clear.
There's a very big difference between ice that has clarity and ice that has got all the solids, and it actually makes ice cloudy. The reason ice is cloudy is because of the minerals and salts or whatever is in the water. The stage I take the water out is where the water has clear. It's pushed all of those away.
And the second and third phrase, bring them, bring them in.
So the freezing time is different for each person's freezer, for different waters freeze at different times. So it's not as simple as just doing that. You do need to get those parts right, but anybody can do it. And I now have thousands of people that have got images similar to mine and that see one of three things. And when I teach the work, I always say, you're going to see one of three things. You might see a signature pattern which essentially means that each different type of water has a signature pattern. For example, rain water looks like a fanning pattern with a curve.
Filter water. Any water that's gone through a filter tends to form compacted lines that are joined together.
Spring water forms what I call a star fern Hexagon. I call it that just because to me, that's what it looks like. It looks like a star with ferns coming off each leg of the star. And if you put them together, it looks like a hexagon.
And tap water looks very disordered, full of lines and dots.
Now, if you let spring water, which looks like that star fern hexagon, and you keep it in a plastic bottle for a week, it will not maintain that beautiful, large hexagonal pattern. It will start to degrade. And it degrades in two specific ways.
One degradation ends up with it being a dot, and one degradation ends up with it being a line. And tap water is mostly lines and dots. It's a lot like Lego. You can have, like, you know, lots of Legos all over the carpet, which is a landmine for any mothers, February fathers. You may have stood on those before.
Or it is actually built into something rather sophisticated.
And those levels of sophistication vary depending on where it's at in its degradation or its improvements, because it can improve.
So that's one thing that tap water has taught me. When you have disordered tap water, and then you let that crystallography melt, and then you hold it to your heart for a minute and. Or you do something like, perhaps play some singing bowls or something very intentional. I like to have it by my heartbeat, lovingly.
And then you refreeze the exact same water, and then you pull it out and you photograph it, what you see is huge change. You see, the structures have started to form into ferns or small flowers, but the water hasn't changed chemically.
So what we're seeing is something more akin to an emotion, which is why I call it the energetic state of water. So what we're seeing at this stage of freezing is the spiritual aspect of water. I think of the three stages of freezing. The stage where there's liquid and ice. The stage, I take it out is spirit. The second one is where there are two. It's like an ice sandwich, where there are two layers of ice with liquid in between. I think of that like blood. And then the third stage is the solid, which is like body.
And so we are seeing incredible changes. But if you have the same tap water and then you let it melt, and then do nothing to it. You keep seeing the disorder, so you know you can, you can have these ways of actually seeing that change really happens.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: So I hear that, and it occurs to me that water, if it is corrupted, shall we say, wants to heal.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: Water is a self naturally will heal itself before it heals its environment.
This is something that not only I have seen. I have a friend who has a company called Natural Action Tech, where it's like a cool little vortex, so that you put water through before you drink it. And he is an engineer, and he was working with, making a plasma unit, working with water in a plasma stage, which was using like flater, which is like a flame, which is also like a laser. And so it's using implosion, cold implosion, so it doesn't feel hot, but it can cut things. And it looks like a laser, it looks like fire, but it's actually water in a certain state of a vicar vibration kind of vapor, I suppose.
And that's one thing we don't, a lot of people don't realize because they think of water as this liquid, but it can be multiple things in multiple stages.
And I think there's many, many stages we are not aware of, actually, that we will learn of later.
But he was saying in his observation is that water needs time to heat, to rest. So he couldn't just have that machine going 24 hours, because it wouldn't efficiently work. Water required at least half an hour each, every 2 hours to rest.
And if he kept it going and going and going, water didn't just give up and go, I'm tired of this, or to do exactly what he wanted, either. It actually gave us such a big pushback that there was one point where it just about gave such a big electrical charge back that it nearly blew there the hundreds of thousands of dollar worth of machinery up.
And I've seen similar things with EMF. You know, years ago, when five G first came out, I got some spring water that I collected myself. I did a control. I hate that word, but you know what I mean when I'm saying that so that I could say, okay, here are the beautiful patterns of spring water. I know what this looks like. Here is what it looks like. And then I froze. Sorry. I went and I put this container of water by the five Qi tower. And I did that for 15 minutes, and also one for half an hour. And when I tested them, I saw that there was like a, like a shock wave had gone through it. So it looked just worse than tap water. It was like tap water usually has some small evidence of something that has some life quality in it. It might be lines and dots, but every now and then you might see a tiny little bit of, like, something that looks like a fern or something like that in amongst the kind of disorder. But with this, I didn't see any of that. It was very similar to what I see when I. When water has been microwaved, which is incredibly bad.
So I let it melt and refroze it, let it melt and refroze it for these kinds of things. I let it meet. I can only do it for about maximum seven times because I don't use much water. So when every time you tip some away, you're left with less and less and less. But it took at least seven goes until water started to come back to its living principles, which was quite concerning. But what was amazing, and this is kind of jumping forward into a conversation we'll probably have a bit later, is that in the last couple of years, I did the exact same thing. In fact, I went to the same source of water. I got the same water, did the control. Okay, here's the beautiful spring water, did the same thing, put it in front of the same 5G tile tower, and I ended up seeing, yes, here's the shock wave. Okay, that is the same. But then something very different had happened, very different. The very next time, because I let that melt and I refroze it. What I saw was some disorder around two hydroglyphs. Now, I've said that water communicates in three ways. There is a signature pattern which shows you the type of water it is. There is art that everyone knows my work from, and it's not surprising that water designs an art for me, given that I'm an artist. It seems to relate to you the way you are and the way you see the world. And then there are hydroglyphs, which is a name I've kind of given to these symbols I see in eyes. So over the many years, I've used all kinds of inspirations, should we say, including words. Words are kind of the most static version of the way we tell about the world. So, for example, the word tree has come from us having observed what trees look like. It has. It's kind of a diluted down version to simplify it in the most easy way, we can communicate what we're talking about. And different languages, of course, have different depths of meaning. Like Hebrew is a very deep, deep meaning. Each letter has a meaning, so it's very deep. So I've used words in different language. Same word in different languages.
And so I'll write a word, put my dish of water on top of it for 30 seconds, which is not too long and not too short. Remove, freeze. And if I see the same symbol appear at least 50 times using the same word, influence, I have one hydroglyph, and I have other people around the world helping me in their own language to see if they'll see hydroglyphs for that same word. And what's interesting is that when we will see the same hydroglyph, for example, for, say, water, there's a hydroglyph for water, which looks like waves.
But if you write the same word water in Hebrew, we'll see waves, but we'll see another couple of hydroglyphs. So it's suggesting that it actually has a deeper meaning.
So what we've discovered is that for one symbol, there are multiple words attached to it which relate to each other.
So I have about 40 hydroglyphs, and with many of them having three or four multiple meanings.
And that means we are able to start to read this language of water. And it gives a voice to the voiceless. Now, I'll explain that story soon, but I want to come back to the 5g. So what we saw in that second phrase were two hydro glyphs, the message glyph, which looks like a triangle with frills on the side, and these kind of things that look like almost like ancient writing on the triangle body. And then we have the live, the information glyph separate. So we have an information hydroglyph, and we have the message hydroglyph. So it's a message of information.
Water is teaching and talk, telling itself through hydroglyphs how to heal the very next melt and freeze. What I saw was crystallography, more beautiful than the very original spring water pattern.
[00:57:52] Speaker A: Whoa.
Oh, my God. That gives me so much hope. Veda.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Well, what is the point of having memory? We talk about water memory. You know, what's the point of having it if we're not learning.
[00:58:08] Speaker A: Right?
[00:58:09] Speaker B: So water is, as humans, too, you know, have find ways to heal and find ways to adapt. We have adapted and adapted and adapted, and we can adapt to this. And I think that this discovery shows an intelligence far beyond what we could have ever imagined. Certainly 15 years ago, and before I even started doing this, I could have. No one would have been able to tell me that this would be what I would be doing.
But my mind is always blown, and I am in tears often by just because I'm so. I'm so overwhelmed with joy for what waters? Shows me in its simple, simple, clear way.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: Yes, yes.
It is a sentient being, as I think Victor Schauberger would say.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: Victor Schauberger said that in every drop of water lies the Godhead.
And there is. I mean, we say this all the time, you know, there is no life without water.
But there's also a saying which is no life. You know, water, no life, which is no, you know, water, no life. But if you change that around and play on words, you could say the knowing, like kno, no water, no life. But there is no, literally no life without water, certainly not on this planet. And that means that water knows us.
And when we look at water outside of a body and we see it flowing as stream or rain or, however, as the ocean, we don't associate ourselves with it, and yet we can't live without it. And every glass of water that is in front of us has been through the trees, it's been through the earth, it's been through the animals, it's been through our ancestors, and it's managed to find its way to you.
And when people ask me what's the best water to drink, I tend to quote what a friend of mine said, the water in your glass, because we are in the first world, are very, very lucky to be able to even have filtered water or water from a spring or wherever we get our water from, but water that's clean enough to drink. I spend a lot of time in India. I've seen how people have to walk for so long to get water that might not even be healthy. So. And yet they have this relationship with the life force energy that is water.
You know, if you have two people, like the richest man in the world and the poorest man in the world, and there is a glass of water, both of them are going to want it. And it's like the water becomes the most important thing in the world to anybody in whatever state or wealth or any condition or religion they're in. If there isn't any water, that glass of water becomes everything and worth everything. We can't drink or live off physical money. If that was all taken away, we would need water to survive.
So after seeing people do such long water fasts, you can survive a long time as long as you have water.
It holds this life force energy. But I also think it has a lot to do with spirit.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Indeed, indeed. And there are cultures, european culture, not so long ago, when people would gather around wells and streams and they would sing to the water, they would celebrate, there would be certain times of the year when they would gather and do that, and they were really communicating with the spirit of the. Of the water. There's no question it was regarded as sacred.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: Well, water wasn't even called water back in old England, old days, water was called the waters.
The waters, because it was considered a holy body of water.
We say, oh, there's a body of water. Why do we say that? We've given. In the Mori culture, you know, there is that we look at the water as a living being. It has the headwaters, it has the water mouth. It has a body of water. And so this house and houses our ancestors. So when you actually are lucky enough to have a glass of water, given that there is only about 2% of drinkable water on the surface of earth, I'm not talking about primary water. There's a whole. That's a whole other thing. There is more drinkable water in the earth's mantle, three times the amount, according to science, than all of the water on the surface of earth, including the oceans, inside the earth's mantle, held within this crystal qudringwodite.
And that is water that has been made inside the earth's mantle. It's not water that's come from outside of the earth. And so science is on the fence as to whether water only came from space, or whether it originated from the earth's mantle, or whether it's a combination of both, which is most likely either way, it's somewhere that neither humans have been. And so I think that there is, whenever I've posted about primary water, which is what it's called, it just gets taken off social media with no explanation. And I think that the reason for that is where there's scarcity, there's value. People would have us thinking that we're running out.
And when you look at the term living or something, if something is alive, one of the prerequisites is that something like multiplies or has babies.
When you look at water, look at how we conceive or anything in the world is conceived, always it's through eggs, or it's through amniotic, you know, through pregnancy, like we understand it, or it's through those little jelly eggs that frogs have. But everything comes into this world through certain types of fluids.
So when you think about these absolute fluids that give the housing for life, no, this is life force energy at its best, procreating.
You know, when you look at how a woman's belly grows, it grows also because the size of the baby. But there is amniotic fluid within that, too, which is growing. And the amniotic fluid actually is the very first fluid of the cerebral spinal fluid in our body. So water itself for every child that's born is expanding and growing itself.
Beautiful. Beautiful.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: Let's finish here. Veda. For the first hour, this is absolutely fascinating. And in the second hour, I want to get into how to heal with water. I have more questions for you, so I will invite listeners to join
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